Wood, glue, brass, parts, and the meaning of life (42)

[Ron]

Not sure this is the right place for this subject, but as I'm just starting on a Slingsby Skylark 4, and have a kit of the major parts from Belair, perhaps it will do.

Here's the kit...



Now, having been out of the hobby for err... some years, I have no 'scrap box' and no pile of handy strips and sheet waiting in the corner.
And all the glues have changed a lot too.

So what I have to ask for your help on is:

What glues should I use?
PVA? Epoxy? Superglue?

Then there's the big 'where can I get stuff from' question.

When in Cork recently I had a quick dive into Noel Barrett's.
Hmmm.
Don't want to offend anyone, but...
Lets just say I was somewhat underwhelmed by the experience.
Maybe it's a symptom of the low population density compared with Dublin.
And being in West Cork, Dublin is just tooooooo far.
What is Mark's Models like in Oliver Plunkett St?
Or does everyone send for materials like strip and sheet balsa on the web?
Personally I like to inspect stuff like that before buying.

Then there seems to be a brass box section needed on the Skylark. So where can I get sheet brass?

Questions, questions...

Just to end on a different note, I have to make up some keel bolts (no not for the Slingsby) and need some 5/8" steel rod.
Any ideas?

Time for a Guinness :lol:

Ron

[Fred]

Hi Ron,

Well, this is a glider, this is scale, no doubt, you are in the right place !  
Good to see some new building around here !  :clap:  

What glues should I use?
PVA? Epoxy? Superglue?

Well, I use the 3 of them !  
Epoxy where you need strengh, PVA everywhere else.
And the Cyano ? Well, a good tip, is to glue the parts with PVA, then put some drops of cyano on the PVA, assemble, and the Cyano will hold everything together ! Wait for the PVA to dry, and that's all.
Best of both world ! Strengh of the wood glue, rapidity of the cyano !  

Then there's the big 'where can I get stuff from' question.

Well, for that question, click on the banner on top !
All wood size available, and the rest, give us a list !
And yes, we ship the stuff ! Or in Mt Leinster, if you are coming !

Other wise, you will need to have a look abroad.

Fred

[Fred]

OOpps, forgot to add.. I use a 4th glue.. Contact glue (Bostik).
Great for the wing sheeting !

[Ron]

Thanks Fred.
Yes, sorry. I get rather blind to banner adds :oops:
But I do have you on the bookmarks toolbar on the browser.

I'll have to study the plans in detail and work up a list.

Great to see you've got the Multiplex deal

Interesting about the Bostik.
What sort of Bostik?
There seems to be more types of each glue than you can shake a stick at :?

Ron

[Alan_Perse]

Then there seems to be a brass box section needed on the Skylark. So where can I get sheet brass?Ron

Hi Ron. Looks like a nice model. When i get my K8 done I might consider getting the Bergfalka II 55 from them.                        
By the way you can bet the brass box section from Gliders Distribution, www.gliders.uk.com/ . Jusy look under materials and then brass. It will be at the bottom of the page.

[Ron]

Thanks Alan.

Yes the kit looks good so far.

And thanks for the link.
That's another bookmark

Ron

[Peter]

Nice looking kit Ron - aways liked the Skylark.  Will be interested to follow your progress on this one.  What scale is the version you are building?

[Ron]

Hi Peter,

It's ¼ scale - 4.5 metres.

I'll keep you posted on progress.
Should start in the coming week sometime, as soon as I've got a new top surface to this bench.

Ron

[Fred]

Hi Ron,

Interesting about the Bostik.
What sort of Bostik?

That's the "contact" glue.
I use it only to do the wing sheeting. Really good for this usage, on balsa or plywood sheeting.

Fred

[Ron]

Hi Fred,

There seems to be loads of different types of Bostik...

http://www.bostik.co.uk/corpweb/p2.nsf

My wife uses a spray-on one that you can move about a bit before it sets, I've got some for putting patches on inflatable dinghys, and in the junk box there a tube of 'clear', whatever that is, and they are all labeled "Bostik Contact Adhesive"
Bit confusing. :?:

Just wondered which one you used.

Ron

[Fred]

Hi Ron,

Well, I don't really know.. This is the basic one you will find in Homebase or B&Q.
Red tube with a big "contact" on it  :wink:



Hope this help !

Or if you are coming at the Mt Leinster Glide-in, I can bring a tube...

Fred

[Ron]

Ah thanks Fred.
A picture is worth a thousand words, etc, etc.

Nothing like the ones I have, but I'm sure I'll find it in Bantry this morning.

Thanks again.

Ron

[Paul ELLIS]

Hi Ron and Fred  

Ron

It looks like it's going to be a good 'un


Fred, How do you actually apply the contact adhesive when sheeting wings?

I mean, how do you know exactly where to apply it to the sheeting, as I assume you have to apply it to both surfaces and let it go tacky?

Merci en avance  :wink:

Paul

[Fred]

Hey salut Paul !    

For the Contact glue, that is really easy !

1>Cut your sheet of balsa to size for the sheeting
2>Apply the contact glue to all the ribs, spar and so on, basically, everywhere the sheeting is going to be in contact with the wing
3>Put the sheeting immediately in position, and remove...

Et voila ! On the sheeting, you can see where the contact glue touches.. You can add a bit more glue in the area still blank.
Of course, wait for the glue to dry (around 5 mins...) and apply.. Job done !

"Une photo vaux mieux qu'un long discours" !  



Sorry, saw your post and mail about the Minimoa (nice work !  :clap:  :clap: ) but haven't took the time to reply  :oops:  :oops:

[Paul ELLIS]

Aha, so simple!  #-o

Thanks for that Fred.

I must get some of that brown paint to paint round the edges of my ribs too.  :wink:

Paul