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« Reply #90 on: February 24, 2011, 09:47:10 AM »
Thank you all!  :D

And no, no number 4! I'm done!  [-X

Alright, so yesterday, did a little bit of work on the Quark.

Firts, traced the line to insert the spar, on the bottom of the wing, using a big square to be perpendicular to the root.



Then, cutter, and insert the spar. Took roughly 2 minutes to do, and gives god strenght to the wing. I will add a second one on top as well.
It's inserted and then glued with thin CA.





I then traced the location of the wing joiners, and cutted them.



Everything is then glued in place with the key inside the tube with epoxy and everything is checked / double checked for all these things to be level etc.





Once dried, the usual filling etc, and time to put everything on the fuselage for the firt time to have a look at the beast!  :D







Pretty pleased with the result!
This is also a very good size finally, not too big, but more important, not too small!

That glider would deserve to be bigger though... Anyone want to cut a 4m version out of styrofoam for the fun ?  :D

Anyway, if I have a bit of time today, I'll put all the servos in, and get it ready for covering.

Almost there!  :D
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« Reply #91 on: February 24, 2011, 10:27:58 AM »
Fred, are you using a carbon rod for a wing joiner? If so, what dia is it? And why are you using, what look like, metal joiner sockets in the wing halves?

K.
Try not to run out of airspeed, altitude and ideas....... all at the same time.

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« Reply #92 on: February 24, 2011, 10:44:01 AM »
Hey Keith,

In the wings, they are 10mm OD (8mmID) aluminium tubes (from the local DIY shop).

Wing joiners are 8mm fibreglass rods (this is black epoxy, looks like carbone, but it's not. The bling, but cheap!  :P )

All that to add a bit of extra weight, as this is too light in my opinon. But can be replaced by a 8mm tube for extra light, and of course, carbone rods if you want to.

That just add 50 ~ 60 grs extra like that.
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« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2011, 12:12:35 PM »
Hi Fred,

Send me the drawing and I'll have a look at cutting a bigger one. Perhaps fibreglass lost foam fuz and bagged wings?

I was intending to build a full size madslide, but this might be anicer model to fly.

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« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2011, 20:12:35 PM »
Thanks Bill, we'll do  :D  We can talk about that in 2 weeks with a good pint  :D

Alright so, I had 2 hours to kill today, so I got a lot of work done on the glider.

First, the clasic fitting of the control snakes in the fuselage. Trace, slice with cutter, insert control snake, pour thin cyano. Et voila, done!







Oh yeah, by the way, did the radio bay with a piano wire shaped in rectangle, an fixed to my solder iron. Classic.



Next, moved to the wings, and fitted the ailerons servos. Quick job.



Traced the ailerons, all ready to be cutted.



I then sprayed the entire glider with 3M 77.



And finaly, the part that took me 1h30 out of the 2hrs I had : covering the entire glider with re-inforced tape and painting...

REally hated the taping part. That's a nice way to completely destroy a rather good looking machine in something full of wrinkles etc etc, especialy around the nose!  :evil:

My plan was to cover all that with white vinyl, but after a minute of hard thinking and a cuppa, what's the point! That thing is supposed to be flown like there's no tomorrow, all terrain and all that! (plus, why spending hours on a foamy thingy to make it look like it's all molded!?. my own personal opinion of course, hope I did not offended some hardcore foamy lovers!  :D  :P )
Anyway, I sanded the entire glider to prep it for paint (nope, could nt left it tape naked either!  :D ) and sprayed it with glossy white (hard enamel for radiators... They did not had white colour appliance paint at the local DIY shop :!: ).
Painted the canopy blue... looked too toyish! Back to black!

And here is the result! All done, just need to make the servos linkages, my job for tomorrow night  :D







And for size (not easy to smile with the sun in your face!  :P  :



Overall so far, happy with the look of it, not so happy with my finishing !
First flight this week end wind permitting, or during the fly-in.
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« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2011, 08:04:16 AM »
Looks great Fred!

I look forward to hearing how it goes.
What size servos are you using with those massive ailerons?

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« Reply #96 on: March 01, 2011, 08:06:08 AM »
Thanks Aidan, me too!  :D

I use MGs servos, I can't remember, but I think they are 2kgs ones. More than enough.
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« Reply #97 on: March 01, 2011, 08:13:56 AM »
Hi Fred , she looks cool  :clap:
Vive La France
You are 100% correct !
Foameys are for fun and will never fly like mouldies
Foameys fly better and bounce better.
Thats why I love then,
BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE
The ailerons are like barn doors !!!!!!!!!!!!
Yippee I think she will be very exciting plane.
 
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« Reply #98 on: March 01, 2011, 19:49:07 PM »
lookin really good Fred. must finish the minitoon so we can fly try them together.

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« Reply #99 on: March 01, 2011, 20:46:48 PM »
Thanks Joe / Richard  :D

Remove the finger, and finish that Minitoon will you!  :P

And for the ones that want to give it a go if that thing is flying correctly, bring a spare receiver with you (I'm mode 1, so can't really share the radio with the majority here  :(   )

Oh, by the way, a bit early, but better to get prepared, if that fly, who will be interrested in a "kit" ?
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« Reply #100 on: March 02, 2011, 10:50:58 AM »
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...Oh, by the way, a bit early, but better to get prepared, if that fly, who will be interrested in a "kit" ?

One for myself and one for my Dad I think.

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« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2011, 09:02:29 AM »
Hi Fred, you may add me to the list.
I am Lithuania flying indoor and having a ball

See you all next weekend.

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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2011, 12:47:06 PM »
Hi Fred

Put me down for one as well!

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« Reply #103 on: March 14, 2011, 14:09:09 PM »
Hi all,

Well, I'm happy to report that the Quark flew for the first time this week end... And flew very well!  :D

Apart for my issue with the bending wings (I only received 1/2 the flat carbone I ordered remember) and the elevator neutral, being.. well, adjustable in flight  :mrgreen:  (I received the wrong push rods, so had to do a fix... 0.8mm piano wire is bending to much!  :!: ).

Anyway, that thing fly great, a bit on the light side, but ballast option is here for that! VTPR is a delight.
Had some great craic flying the thing right on the lift.
Definitively a keeper for me!

Can't wait to sort out my issues to fly it fast! (acceleration is good, but then, bendy wings make that thing do weird, but funny, stuff!  :P  )

Was thinking that the rudder was going to be too small, but the response was surprisingly good for the size! I might give it a 5~10% increase though to make it more fun!  :D

Soooo... Video coming soon, better to see it fly by yourself.
Richard and Joe tried it, so maybe they can put their impressions of the model here.

I'll post the PDF plan later for the one who want to scratch build it.
For the lazy ones like me who prefer a "kit", I'll check for pricing, but should be around 55 to 60 euros/ea. I'll throw the depron and 6x6 wood for the tail and the plan for these parts in the lot.
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« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2011, 16:02:09 PM »
That's great Fred!
I'm delighted to hear hear it worked out well.
A pity I couldn't be there to see it myself..... next time.

Aidan