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Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 03:46:33 AM

Yebb, the one and only, with updated wing panels, ordered it for my mate so I'll post some pictures along the way.

Largest sailplane and also largest model (in wingspan not %) in Iceland. Bought in the UK, Al's Hobbies (http://alshobbies.com/) got it from Hyperflight(they didn't want to ship it, can't blame them after seeing the original box) for me and reboxed it so it would survive the trip overseas. Top service as usual!


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/T3YTaUBvHPw[/youtube]

My 33% Ka-3 (http://www.gliderireland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3312) looking small on the box.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6484.JPG)

Unboxing the boxes.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6488.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6494.JPG)

I wonder who this wood is that builds the models?    :roll:
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6496.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6500.JPG)

Wingtips!
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6501.JPG)

Small pilot.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6506.JPG)

One wing.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6511.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6520.JPG)

Looooong wing!
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6515.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6514.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_01_23_K8B_koma/IMG_6522.JPG)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on January 24, 2013, 08:21:15 AM

Nice one!  :clap:

I had the pleasure to try one quickly last year. Lovely model, fly like a trainer! (with the original bendy wings...)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 11:06:38 AM

Good to hear, my mate is known to like his loop and rolls though, will be interesting to see if it holds up.   :?

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on January 24, 2013, 11:12:05 AM

Fingers crossed!
Apparently the new wing is much stronger.
At the same time, looks like the issue with the first wing affected only a few people as report from Germany, France etc were good with this model.
Wings bend, but don't break!  :?:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 11:18:58 AM

Both sets came, at least he'll be half way to a new one if something happens. Not sure I'd be feeling lucky enough to try much aerobatics if I had one.  

The price is very good though, reason why it was bought along with happy moments from the web/YT, the final price was more than double the UK price though, joys of island living with import taxes, not just VAT.   :!:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: erwan on January 24, 2013, 17:50:43 PM

Hello

I flew with the same glider in september , it's a really "smooth" glider. Easy for fly and take thermal.

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: mario on January 24, 2013, 18:13:26 PM

nice glider but the tailplane  have not the  good "weding" :wink:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 18:29:27 PM

Yes I've seen something about shimming them up at the front.
What would you guys recommend, -1.5° to -2° for the tailplane versus the wing?

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: mario on January 24, 2013, 18:38:27 PM

1.5  is good but the profiles?

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 18:40:48 PM

The profile on the tailplane isn't good?

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: mario on January 24, 2013, 18:43:45 PM

no , i  want to know the wings profile :wink:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on January 24, 2013, 18:44:16 PM

Tu veux dire quoi Ronan?  :?:
Tu parles bien de l'incidence?

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 18:44:42 PM

Ah, sorry about that! The box says HQW3/15.

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on January 24, 2013, 18:46:34 PM

Aaaaaaahhhhhh ! :oops:

1.5 sound good then :)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: mario on January 24, 2013, 18:47:13 PM

oui , c est bien ça mon fred, mais j ai du mal en anglais :!:
HQW3/15. :lol:  1.5 is good

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on January 24, 2013, 18:49:28 PM

:lol: non mais tu parlais de mariage a un moment :lol:
But your English is better than my Icelandic! ( even my drunk Icelandic is no good :lol:  )

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: mario on January 24, 2013, 18:50:33 PM

bon , je vais prendre un apero , ça ira mieux :wink:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on January 24, 2013, 19:28:41 PM

I'm pretty sure my French is about as good as your Icelandic.  :lol:
Thanks for the assistance with the numbers guys.

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 12, 2013, 02:12:34 AM

Took some time to get started, best laid plans and all that!

Servos are in, tow hook has been moded, wiring is being made and I forgot to take pictures! I'll try and do better next time we're working on it! Though the assembly is pretty straight forward and not much to dwell on!

(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360634235_0.jpg)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 13, 2013, 13:30:48 PM

Brakes being installed, the compartment is marginal in size, 1-2mm more depth would be nice.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360722821_0.jpg)

There'll be close to 15 meters of wire in the plane when all is done. This one goes to the tail servos.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360722821_1.jpg)
 
Fish boxes make for nice cradles.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360722821_2.jpg)

Plenty of room for the accessories, the satelites are waiting to be installed.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360722821_3.jpg)

Loooong way back!
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360722821_4.jpg)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 14, 2013, 00:23:04 AM

The inner panels are big so every measure is needed to wire them!
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360800838_1.jpg)

Wiring looms for the wing connection from the rx to fuse/wing join.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360800838_2.jpg)

Still plenty of space, at times three arms shared that space!
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360800838_4.jpg)

The tow hook modification.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360800838_0.jpg)

24 kg of pull should do the trick, at least we didn't manage to jam it!
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360800838_6.jpg)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 15, 2013, 00:43:32 AM

We need wider space! :lol:
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360888355_2.jpg)

Setting up throws.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360888355_3.jpg)

3 kg put in the nose, might need more, we'll see.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360888355_5.jpg)

It's BIG!
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360888355_6.jpg)

330 cm CARF Yak in the background.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1360888355_7.jpg)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on February 15, 2013, 09:16:18 AM

Once again, very neatly put together!  :clap:  :clap:
First flight this week end?  :D

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 15, 2013, 10:37:46 AM

Thanks, still need to fix the weight so I doubt it.   :?:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Discusdan1 on February 20, 2013, 03:43:05 AM

Hi selleri
Very nice one there.You should have a ball with it.It is in fact funny
that some had problems with it but let's hope yours is Ok.
I do not know if this is your first big one but I can assure you that if
it is the case you will just love flying those biggies.
I do fly big ones like a Duo-Discus at 8m with the AFT-25 system
and also building a 1/2 scale Duster right now.
How great that would be that you post some pics of your " 8 "
in our forum pages  also.
It will be very nice to have you aboard.
Thanks,
Daniel
www.quebecaerotowassociation.com

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 20, 2013, 03:47:15 AM

Hi Daniel

Afraid it's my mates but he has hinted that I can have a go when I've landed the tug, lol.   :wink:

I'll head over tomorrow and post at your forum but now it's bed time, dreaming of glass slippers and gull winged woodies.

brg.,
Sverrir

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Discusdan1 on February 22, 2013, 03:37:13 AM

Hi selleri
Any problems getting registered ? Maybe that could help,,,the answer
is QAA.
Let me know if there is a problem.
Regards,
Daniel

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on February 22, 2013, 03:38:45 AM

Had to delay it, 24 hours just aren't cutting it at the moment, lol.
Should get some time over the weekend!

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Discusdan1 on February 22, 2013, 03:40:54 AM

Then it will be great to have you aboard.
I just love that KA-8.
Cheers.
Daniel

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on February 22, 2013, 08:39:17 AM

Quote from: "Discusdan1"

Hi selleri
Any problems getting registered ? Maybe that could help,,,the answer
is QAA.
Let me know if there is a problem.
Regards,
Daniel

I'm pretty sure we can also get some sort of answer over here too  :mrgreen:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on April 22, 2013, 02:37:11 AM

Well the big day was today but first we needed a tug so we "maidened" the 33% Cub and then we were ready to roll. It sure liked to stay up when we found lift and it didn't take a long roll on the ground to get airborne, Zenoah 80 had no problem getting it up.

My mate is very happy and likes it a lot.

Pink Panther & Kate waiting...
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1366578275_2.jpg)

Sweet
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6079.JPG)

Up she went.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6093.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6112.JPG)

Ready to go.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6077.JPG)

And together they went...  few times more.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6172.JPG)

It sure has a presence in the air.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6218.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6140.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6196.JPG)

Coming for a landing.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6224.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6154.JPG)

(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6238.JPG)

Two happy chaps.
(http://frettavefur.net/myndirModelmanna/albums/uploadMyndir/2013/2013_04_21_K8B_frumflug/IMG_6161.JPG)

Looking good.
(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1366578275_3.jpg)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/LqU-OwpYqRM[/youtube]

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: andrew wallace on April 22, 2013, 16:54:11 PM

Very nice  :clap:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Happy Days on April 22, 2013, 21:13:14 PM

Smashing flight! :D  Followed by a perfect landing. :clap:

( I feel quite inadequate.  :oops:  )

Keith

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on April 23, 2013, 02:04:01 AM

Cheers guys!

No need to Keith, we make sure to only show the good stuff!   :wink:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on April 23, 2013, 15:53:34 PM

Congratulations to all the pilots / builders!  :clap:  :clap:

REally looks like you are having waaayyy too much fun over there!  :clap:  :clap:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Happy Days on April 23, 2013, 16:30:53 PM

I must confess, in my ignorance,( :oops:  ) that before Selleri started posting on the forum when thinking of Model aviation Iceland would not have even come to my mind.

They say you learn something new every day. I had absolutely no idea model, (and full size looking at the hangers,)  aviation was so popular in Iceland.

The world is full of wonderment. I must learn to open my eyes.

Keith

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on April 24, 2013, 02:20:31 AM

We even had some Irish here long time ago.

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on May 06, 2013, 13:56:09 PM

Well we've been flying Kate a bit more and it's a joy to fly! It can take the lightest of thermals and climb to good altitude. The landing gear is still going strong and the loop "record" is currently at five consecutives loops so I'd guess the new wings are okay.

(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1367781434_4.jpg)

(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1367781434_5.jpg)

(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1367781434_10.jpg)

(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1367781434_6.jpg)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: rogallo on May 27, 2013, 14:03:33 PM

Hello Selleri, greeting from Cork, the real capital of Ireland.

I am looking at bringing back 2 of these kits from the UK next month and would like to know if you could take some measurements for me. This way I might work out if I need a bigger car.

I would like to know the dimensions of each wing panel, tail fin and fuselage if possible please.

Many thanks in advance

Ralph aka Rogallo

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on May 27, 2013, 15:50:12 PM

Hi Ralph

The tail fin is removable so that shouldn't be too much of an headache. I'll see if I can get the other numbers for you tomorrow night. Calling Neil at Hyperflight might be your quickest way though.

brg,. Sverrir

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: rogallo on May 28, 2013, 22:06:27 PM

not sure if we are buying from hypreflight. if you could it would be great.
No worries if you cannot.

Thanks again

Ralph

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on May 29, 2013, 00:54:24 AM

Hmmm, I thought he was the only one carrying them in the UK? Anywho I couldn't get the measurements tonight and might not get them just yet. I'll post here when I do!

Rough estimate is as follows.
The inner panels are around 170cm, the outer 115cm, fuselage about 260cm without rudder

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: rogallo on June 02, 2013, 09:37:49 AM

All good. Looks like 2 may arrive in Ireland next week :)
Thanks for the help. Sorry to cause you any hassle
Rogallo[/list]

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on June 20, 2013, 02:24:06 AM

Good news, I've been a bit busy and when we finally had time for some modeling stuff I forgot all about the measure bit!

I'm doing the pulling.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/6w0lcv2gwb4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/suv9IL5GcbY[/youtube]

BTW I'm not saying it was windy the next day but...

(http://frettavefur.net/Forum/uploadpic/2013/1371513484_7.jpg)

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on June 20, 2013, 14:21:46 PM

Very good Sverrir!  :clap:  :clap:

Is the Grunau a Krik kit?  :?:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on June 20, 2013, 17:03:33 PM

The builder said it's designed by Rüdiger Götz one of the editors of Modell (http://www.webshop.neckar-verlag.de/).
Short kit from http://www.cnc-modellbautechnik.de/.

Build thread on RCSB: http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9130&PN=2

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: rogallo on June 20, 2013, 22:52:36 PM

no worries 2 in my garage  :D

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on June 21, 2013, 02:35:58 AM

Good to hear, I'm sure you'll enjoy them as much as we have!

This one didn't go as planed but then you just add some funky music and try and enjoy the scenery!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/LU9mviLFt3c[/youtube]

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: Fred on June 21, 2013, 11:58:31 AM

Quote from: "selleri"

The builder said it's designed by Rüdiger Götz one of the editors of Modell (http://www.webshop.neckar-verlag.de/).
Short kit from http://www.cnc-modellbautechnik.de/.

Build thread on RCSB: http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9130&PN=2

 :oops:  :oops:  Looked small (1/4 scale) on the video for some reasons.

Nice build!  :clap:  :clap:

That was the first flight right?  :?:

Title: 40% K8B from Phoenix
Post by: selleri on June 21, 2013, 14:08:52 PM

Wish I could say it was but...   they had done two "flights" before, here is the first.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/MoHqMSF7XRQ[/youtube]