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« on: July 21, 2009, 19:05:33 PM »
Hi all,
This may be worth a go ; http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=946985

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 20:13:50 PM »
Ha,.........eddited footage is far too easy to "fiddle" :wink: (Ask me how I know :) )
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 20:32:59 PM »
Editing is fine Keith. It is not done as a continuous schedule. You can record each maneuver and then edit it all together as far as I can see!??

Looks like it is finished for this year but, maybe next time??

Something to work towards? Your Phase would do all those maneuvers Keith.

Or maybe build a new acro ship for the job. Fred has an interesting design. It's a mix of all the best aerobatic gliders rolled into one. A culmination of a long french forum thread on acro glider design. The plan I have is for a 3 metre version. Maybe foam wings and a lost foam fuse for the prototype??

Is that the sound of Voltij batteries charging I hear Brian?? :D
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 21:11:03 PM »
That's it Joe.
I do not mean to enter the vid comp, rather something that we could develop for ourselves.
Any detail on that 'design' available.
I might be interested as might Keith.

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 21:12:19 PM »
Big acro ship sounds good Joe. Some of the vids put up for that comp were impressive, not least the one by the moderator showing all the moves required. Favourite is the "Blue(black?) & Green.

What about reviving acro comps? Easier to run than F3f or 60". Start with a simple routine and make it harder as skills improve?
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 21:37:52 PM »
Yeah! why not decide on a schedule and give us all something to work on. 15 maneuvers seems a little much to me maybe 7-10? and make it so most reasonably aerobatic models can do it??

For the design. Fred might have an image. I just have a big plan on my wall!
The size is 2.8/ 3metres.
There are plenty of 2metre and below models around but not much bigger than that.
They went through everything from control surfaces sizes to moment to side surface area etc..
I think the working name is Genesis.

I hope to make a start on assembling a new CNC foam cutting machine in the next week with Keith. Will take a while to get it up and running I'm sure. That will take care of the wings and stab.

As for the fuse. Ultimately making a mold would be the idea. Maybe for a prototype a quick lost foam fuse would be easiest option. See how it flies and then take it from there.

Fred?????
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 21:50:03 PM »
If it has to be suitable for most models there can't be too much inverted, so we're probably looking at loops, rolls, spins, stall turns and similar. Leave it with me and I'll try and come up with something in the next couple of weeks and post it here for comment. Once we've settled on the manoevures people can start practicing and we need to work out a scoring/judging set up!
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 22:03:25 PM »
This is worth a look, although t doesn't look like it's been updated in a while!! :roll:

http://www.slopeaerobatics.com/?q=node
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 22:12:54 PM »
Ouiiiiii ????

Ok, another project so ?  :roll:

As Joe said, we had a chat a long while ago with some of the best glider pilots of the category, and came up with one design that take the best of pretty much everything (well, in theory!!  :?: )
Everything was calculated to be just right for aerobatics, and especially VTPR type of flying.
Seeing the amount of "small" aerobatic gliders around (Voltij', Wasabi etc etc) I went for the big side (we were around 50/50 about the size, less or more than 2.5mtrs) and design one that will do 2.8m or 3m...

Looks like an Excalibur, but it is in fact more a mix of all the Britanic vtpr machines like the Excalibur again, Sonic, Twister... And when you see them flying, you have a totally different view of what an aerobatic glider should be !  =P~  =P~  =P~
Look like something like this :



Lot of work to do a plug, but if someone want to have a go, or even for a lost foam fuselage as a try, I can give the plan with templates etc etc...
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2009, 22:17:21 PM »
I'll give a lost foam fuselage a crack.
I've done a couple that way, including my last thermal ship
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 22:24:50 PM »
I've also designed this thing...



2.5mtr, all foam (to change from the small foamies you found now everywhere...).
Scrapped the proto (had all the parts !) without building it to make room in the workshop for more urgent projects  :oops:  :oops:

If someone want to give it a go when the cnc machine will be completed...
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2009, 22:29:06 PM »
Oh.......??????????????? er........ what is VTPR flying? :?: (Very Tight  Perfect Roll?)(I do them all the time :lol: )

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2009, 22:38:46 PM »
Quote from: "Happy Days"
Oh.......??????????????? er........ what is VTPR flying? :?: (Very Tight  Perfect Roll?)(I do them all the time :lol: )

K.


voltige très près du relief   aka glider 3D
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2009, 22:40:29 PM »
Quote from: "Happy Days"
Oh.......??????????????? er........ what is VTPR flying? :?: (Very Tight  Perfect Roll?)(I do them all the time :lol: )

K.


the video on this age probably explains it better:

http://www.slopeaerobatics.com/?q=node/156
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2009, 22:42:21 PM »
Thanks Bill. These French people always talk in riddles :D  :wink:
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