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haydenc

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« on: March 30, 2008, 21:42:23 PM »
Hi All.
Have been interested in getting an RC Glider for some time. Eventually going to make a purchase in the next week or so.
Have flown RC Heli and Fixed wing but that was over 10 years ago.
Was thinking of getting Great Planes Spirit 2M.
Would this be a good model to start with ?
Open to suggestions as I know I have a lot to learn and don't want to make mistakes that I have done in other hobbies, so I will ask first.
Any help appreciated.
Charlie
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2008, 22:47:13 PM »
Hi Charlie,
Welcome to the forum !  :D  :D

Well, the Spirit 2M is a very good choice for a beginner !
But if I may, I will choose something with ailerons, like the Spirit Elite (if you want to stay with the Spirit) or an Easyglider (not wood, but foam).

Ailerons will gives you more responses from the glider, and if you fly mostly at the slope, that will help you a lot in the turbulences, and to stay on the slope.
A rudder/elevator glider is really fine, but sometimes, the slow reactions (especially when the wind is coming from the back of the glider) can put you into trouble...

And flying with ailerons straight away, will prepare you better for the next stage !  :D

I hope that will answer part of your questions, but don't hesitate to ask more if you need it !  :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 00:56:21 AM »
Hi Fred.
Thanks for coming back so quickly.
I had ruled out ailerons and flaps and had been thinking of a simple start.
Now I don't know.
I had a look at the Elite on the web and it seems a simple build, for all the building there is in it.
I would like to think I could handle ailerons and flaps but I am old and cautious.
I recently sold my HC and the radio gear and am left with an old JR Apex 5 Tx.
This doesn't have mixing capabilities and is in need of a new power supply.
I suppose I am reading too much tech stuff on the web and what I need to do is get a model and learn to fly it .
Do you know is there anyone flying gliders in the Drogheda area.
Thanks again.
Charlie
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 07:38:11 AM »
Hi Charlie,

Well, flaps are not necessary for sure at this stage (don't build them) but I would go for the ailerons still.

Saying that, if you are really not sure and want to go precausiously (?), Rudder/elevartor is more than enough !
Just remember to nerver turn on the slope, but away from it !  :D  :wink:

I know nobody from Drogheba area, maybe someone around knows ?  :?:

You can also come to join us one week end when we are flying in Dublin, if you want to have a try !
We have a club glider (easyglider) that you can use for your training !
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 20:31:36 PM »
Hi Charlie,

I have a rudder/elevator Spirit 2M - I can recommend it.  The polyhedral makes this a very stable glider and even if the response is sluggish compared to an aileron-shod machine, it is a very easy glider to fly.  Also pretty straightforward to build.  Go for it!
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 22:36:02 PM »
Thanks Fred and Peter.
I work shift and the next few weekends are occupied but I would love to take you up on the offer Fred. Wont be till late April though.
I hope by then to have my own Spirit by then.
It would be a great help to get pointers on flying it. So I will be in touch on your offer to
On further research I see it has optional spoilers. They would be a help when it comes to landing. Peter have you tried them ? Does the glider float when it gets into ground effect.
Loads to learn. but first I better get a glider.
2 M Spirit it will be.
Spent a lot of last night reading other topics on the forum.
Look forward to eventually flying.
Many thanks
Charlie
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 22:47:15 PM »
You're welcome Charlie  :D

And any time for coming flying with us !
We'll keep in touch !

You can also come to some meetings if you want to meet a bunch of lads...
20th of April, Cork Glide in
10th - 11th May ISR glide in at Mt Leinster

And all other week end at any slope, weather permitting of course  :D
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 07:10:01 AM »
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You can also come to some meetings if you want to meet a bunch of lads...
20th of April, Cork Glide in
10th - 11th May ISR glide in at Mt Leinster...

... and the last one is with international attendees, this shows which importance the Irish glider scene has  :lol:
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2008, 07:24:37 AM »
:lol:  :lol:
And quality Europeans pilots too !  :lol:  :P  :P
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2008, 14:44:41 PM »
Well that did'nt last long.
There I was all geared up.
Ready to go
Even downloaded a copy of the Instruction Manual and read it
2ce.
Ordered new slimline RX and Servos.
Then I said I wanted to order a 2M Spirit.
"What do you mean, out of production"
They had sold their last one only yesterday.
Just spent the morning on the net searching model shops all over the UK
NO 2M Spirit to be found anywhere
So the great search starts again.
Ah maybe I will wait till tomorrow.
A bit disheartened.
Thanks all for the encouragement so far.
Charlie
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2008, 15:06:19 PM »
Out of production ?? weird !

Just thinking... I have a "sophisticated Lady", still in box, with an extra fuselage...

If you can't find a Spirit and if you are interrested in that one...

I will certainly never build it, or maybe in 10 years for my daughter...  :P

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2008, 16:40:49 PM »
Thanks for the offer Fred  but I think I have a fall back one.
Fling 2M.
Seems basic. Elevator and Rudder.
Yet it looks very sleek
Do you know anything BAD about them ?
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2008, 20:38:28 PM »
Really bad luck/timing with the Spirit 2M - a shame it is going out of production.  I still have the plan here if you are interested in building one from scratch - I can send it to you if you like.  Otherwise you could check out www.arthobby.com - they have some nice gliders including several 2 metre models.  I bought a Falco V from that last year (1.5 m) and thought it was a very well produced - beautiful veneered wings.  With the euro-dollar exchange rate the way it is going they are becoming good value. Fling 2M is porbably a pretty good choice also.  David can probably advise you on this as he has one.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2008, 14:53:40 PM »
Stan Yeo is the man, epp trainers etc, very well designed kits that fly well. Stan has been building and flying gliders for many years. His Stiletto is a lovely advanced slope model but is a crunchie (made of timber) a bit like the Phase 6. Anyhoo see his link below

http://www.phoenixmp.com/acatalog/Advanced_Trainers.html



Synergy DUET Sport Ref: AT008
Synergy DUET Sport is of similar design to the Synergy DUET R/E except that it is fitted with strip balsa ailerons and is considerably more aerobatic.

Price: £59.95

Regards and look forward to seeing everyone on the 20th

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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 16:34:49 PM »
Thanks for the replies, and the offer of the plans, Peter. For the moment I will continue searching for an ARTF model.
My second option failed also. Can't find a 2M fling anywhere.
Saw a good report in March Radio Control Model Flyer on a Ripmax Stargazer 2.
It looks very garish with its all red underside and splashes of White and Yellow on top.
Suppose this would help with orientation.
It has ailerons and the mag says good things about it. But then they usually do.
I will mull over it for the evening.
Thanks again all
Charlie
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