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« Reply #165 on: March 25, 2012, 02:51:40 AM »
That's a good report! Hope the elevator mod works well for you. Post that vid!

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« Reply #166 on: March 31, 2012, 15:15:21 PM »
Thanks to Keith, here is a raw footage of the first launch of my Quark!
2 minutes saved, only added title and shitty music!

You can see the elevator is a bit unprecised with the expo turned on, roll rate is appropriate, good energy retention. Hope to have another video with proper aerobatics in April!


[youtube]http://www.vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=39531080[/youtube]
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« Reply #167 on: March 31, 2012, 17:36:00 PM »
le casse pas avant que j arrive :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #168 on: March 31, 2012, 19:30:43 PM »
:P  :P
Prochains vols quand vous etes la  :D
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« Reply #169 on: March 31, 2012, 22:26:04 PM »
will the 2m quarks be ready for big L :D
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« Reply #170 on: April 06, 2012, 20:04:35 PM »
Hey Andrew, (sorry, missed your post  :oops: ).

Mine will be  :D  Ready to crash! (yeah, Ronan will try it, so we can fear the worse! Or the best, we don't know, that's why it's so exciting!  :lol: )

Talking about the Quark, the updated plan is now on the Jivaro website (see the Quark page).

For the ones who don't read French, plans are here :

http://jivaro-models.org/quark_2m/page_quark_2m.htm

Enjoy!  :D
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« Reply #171 on: April 12, 2012, 12:13:36 PM »
Hi Fred, thanks for beautiful plane.:clap: On February I built my first slope glider and from its maiden flight I'm hooked up in slope flying.  I've already printed Quark plans and because I'm new in RC I've few questions for you.
a/ How deep-giong into 10mm tube is the 8mm rod in the wing or what is the length of 8mm rods?
b/What servos do you use?
c/How is the canopy attached to the fuselage?
d/How are hinges solved?
Could you make a photo for your answers. Thank you very match.
Sorry, my English isn't good.
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« Reply #172 on: April 12, 2012, 13:58:29 PM »
Hi George,
Thanks, and welcome to the forum  :D

I give you a quick answer now (sorry, I'm on the go to our annual meeting), but I can send you the photos next week (glider is packed up in the car).

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a/ How deep-giong into 10mm tube is the 8mm rod in the wing or what is the length of 8mm rods?


Good question!  :D  I don't know, but I would say that on mine, the rod goes  maybe 10cm in each tube. I think my total wing joiner lenght is around 30cm.
But no worries if you have more, or a bit less, this is not critical  :D

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b/What servos do you use?

I used mini servos for the wings with metal gears (MG14 from HobbyKing), and 2 standards servos for the Elevator / rudder (Futaba 3003 if I remember.. That's what I had in the spare box, but any mini or standard servos will do).
Everything is powered by a 5 cells nimh battery.

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c/How is the canopy attached to the fuselage?


Mine... ermm.. With a piece of tape at the front and back... :oops:  Original idea was to use magnets or rubber band

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d/How are hinges solved?


Sorry George, I don't understand that one, but I guess you are talking about the hinges for the ailerons / rudder?
If so, I used Blenderm.

By the way, do you have the new set of plan available on the Jivaro website?  :?:  The ailerons construction is slightly different (no more sanding!  :D )

Sorry, this is a bit short, but don't hesitate to let me know if you need more details!
I'll do a few detailled photos when I come back  :D
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« Reply #173 on: April 12, 2012, 15:00:11 PM »
Hi George, from the beautiful city of Prague. Welcome! :D

As Fred said, here in Ireland we have a big Glide - In this weekend 8)  so many pilots are busy getting their models ready, or travelling to the flight area. (Mt. Lienster in County Wexford.)

Regarding how to hinge the aileron, rudder, and elevator. There are many ways to hinge them. The way that Fred is saying is by cutting the bottom trailing edge of the aileron at 45 degrees as you can see in the next picture.






This will allow the aileron to move downward, as shown in the next picture.




The hinge itself  is actually some very strong sticky tape that is stuck to the top of the aileron. Part is stuck to the top of the aileron and part is stuck to the top of the trailing edge of the wing. Look carefully and you will just see it in the next picture.



If you wanted to make a very strong hinge you could also use some more tape on the underside. So the aileron has tape on top and on the bottom as well.

Elevators can be hinged in the same way.

For the rudder……

Cut the trailing edge of the fin to a > shape. And the leading edge of the rudder to a < shape.

Place the rudder and fin close together > <and stick the tape on both sides. (They should be as close as possible so that they are touching >< )
You can clearly see the tape in the next pictures



There are many other ways to hinge controll surfaces George, but this is the easiest, cheapest and lightest way that I know of.
Oh, one more thing I must tell you George. By International Convention & Law you must show us some pictures of your finished model. (we like to see lots of pictures on this forum! :D)

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« Reply #174 on: April 12, 2012, 15:34:55 PM »
Wow! :shock: Thank you very match for quick response to both of you  :D
Yours answers satisfied me completely!  I have one more question  :D
I dont undertand what does Ribs Angle Gauge mean?

Once again thanks for your answers and enjoy yours annual meeting
 :)  We have here (in Prague) rainy days and forecast isn't better for weekend  :cry:
Pictures of finished model and video from maiden flight I of course post here.
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« Reply #175 on: April 12, 2012, 15:44:00 PM »
Hi George,

Very quickly (just heard that the plane with the Frenchies just landed!)

The gauge is to give the correct angle to the ribs and ailerons' ribs.
The Piece N1 on the plan, is put on a flat surface, then the ribs for the ailerons glued to it.
As you can see on the plan, the ribs are not at a 90 degrees angle at their leading edge!
So you use this template to have them glued correctly if you see what I mean  :?:
Hard to explain, I try to find a photo later  :D
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« Reply #176 on: April 12, 2012, 20:37:13 PM »
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Hi George,

Very quickly (just heard that the plane with the Frenchies just landed!)

The gauge is to give the correct angle to the ribs and ailerons' ribs.
The Piece N1 on the plan, is put on a flat surface, then the ribs for the ailerons glued to it.
As you can see on the plan, the ribs are not at a 90 degrees angle at their leading edge!
So you use this template to have them glued correctly if you see what I mean  :?:
Hard to explain, I try to find a photo later  :D


sorry Fred, I'm reading your words again and again, but still don't understand  :oops: maybe photo helps :)

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« Reply #177 on: April 12, 2012, 20:46:31 PM »
Can you specify anything else for me please :)  
 

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« Reply #178 on: April 12, 2012, 22:10:16 PM »


Hi George,
             I believe these are the angles Fred is referring to.

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« Reply #179 on: April 12, 2012, 22:32:01 PM »
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Hi George,
             I believe these are the angles Fred is referring to.

John.


Thanks a lot John, for your explaining.  :)