MACI National Event

[rogallo]

Hello everyone,
    looking for some input here, Fred, Joe, Aidan et al.
As you all know, never go to a MACI AGM you will end up with a job
As Glider sec I have been asked to organise an event for all of us and need a date to run it. Now if it was up to me I would have a week long event in the Isle of Mann, but alas it is going to be run on this fair Isle.

Any thought on a date? Venue (central) and format for the event?

Ralph

[joe]

Hiya Ralph.Happy new year!
Personally I'd say Limerick makes sence again.It's central,has most wind directions covered,easy access,spectacular views and very friendly people.Had a quick flight there just after christmas and the site looks great!

Would say more fun orientated rather than competition would be best to get people on the slope, scale section(judged by the scale pilots),slope race,combat like last year makes sense.With plenty of open time for people to fly whatever they want!

It might be worth talking to a local club about the potential of aero-towing if there was no wind?

As far as dates are concerned.I know Retroplane is the 7 and 8 of July so if we could avoid that that would good.

[Fred]

Hi There,
Agreed with Joe.
Limerick (Hey Gerry, if you are around...) sound like it's in the middle of everywhere. But Isle of Mann sound even better ! I'm in !  

For the date, same, avoid the first week of July (Retroplane !!!     ), but I think it must be run for a week end (2days)

For the event format.. Well, we can have a scale National, in a promotion format. That mean 2 categories, vintage / modern, and judged by the pilots.
For the other categories, you just need to be carefull not to transform the National to a big Fly-in. Can be nice too, but I think we need this year event as a category promotion, to have a better definition of the glider category in the MACI.
Just thinking of a national with combat.. More a fun fly category, and may not have his space in a National, and that may be confusing at the end about what this National is about.
I will go for Scale, Race and Aerobatics, and stick to these categories. But we can have a combat in a break !    Banzaiiii !!
All categories judges by pilots, in a friendly contest, but at least, that can be a good base for 2008 and a "real" National (meaning with Judges, paperwork and so on... )

Hope I'm clear and that will help you a bit.

Fred

[Alan_Perse]

That format seems fine to me. But about slope racing. What kind of gilders would be allowed. Would it be 60" gliders only, or F3F etc. Some people may like to take part but may not have the right gilder. I for one don't have any racing gliders, at least not yet   . But it doesn't realy matter to me, I'll proably only take part in scale anyway. That is if I have my K8 built by then   .

[Fred]

Hi Alan,

About the slope racing, I think we can do a kind of open category with what will be on site.
Foamies, 60", F3F machines and so on...

I have a Flying wing if you want to participate.. I have my Destiny.. So, we can find a way !  

[joe]

I take your point on the fun-fly factor.Maybe save the combat for after the main event.What would aerobatics involve?

[Fred]

Hi Joe,

The organisators just need to create a program with coef notes...
Can be a known or not known program (or both), totally depend of the CD.
The known program can be revealed well before the event, allowing people to have time for training.
The notes can be given by the pilots of other categories, judges, public or else.

[Fred]

Hi there,
Was thinking this morning (yes, that happen sometimes !   ) what about a PSS category instead of combat ?

[joe]

Would there be enough PSS models to enter?? be nice to encourage that as a category.I be in  

[rogallo]

Please remember we are all the organisers.
Any CD's here?

Please note a few items,

1)competition seems to be fading at the moment.  it tends to be cyclical though!
2)Competition require more people than a funfly!
3) Specific models......
4)
5) so on and so forth, so everyone must be prepared to do some work.

Any takers?

Ralph

[Fred]

:oops:  Ooops, sorry Ralph, I was thinking we were talking of a National (Contest for me).
So, if it's a Funfly (or kind of), you can do whatever categories you want, I'll try to participate to all of them !    Going to be a busy day !
And I stick to the Limerick location as a central one.

[Alan_Perse]

We still could have a kind of a competition, such as best scale model voted by the people that are there etc.

[rogallo]

Well, I need to make some sort of proposal to the MACI.

I need a show of hands here adn then I must phone everyone else and make a decision. Remeber if you want competition you must be able to provide for the competition, ie names for judges, a venue for a judging course, a qualified Contest Director (helping to run a WC does not count!).

I still don't know if you want a funfly event (easier to organise and no-one gets killed) or formal competitons (1 and a half in favour)

3 basic comps would be (in order of requirements)

epp combat, pilot/judges event, no special training for officals.

Scale, requires judges, requires training of some degree

Racing, requires, time keepers, and a course to be set up.

Funfly event, all feel welcome, no pressure on anyone to do anything but fly and have fun!

Gentlemen

The choice is yours!

[Fred]

Well... You can also feel welcome in competitions, having fun and so on..


Anyway, if there is a fun fly, I will participate.

[rogallo]

Fred, I know people feel welcome at competitions, but more people will travel to a less formal event, this has been my experience here.
I will help with a competition but do not want all the responsibilities of running it as has happened in the past. :cry: